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Hey, anyone going on the Everest base camp leaving 26th March 2010 - my names Matt and i'm travelling alone and would like to chat with anyone else that is going on these dates, perhaps check what preperation everyone is making, so that I can be prepared and fit enough to keep up - Matt

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Joined: 28/09/2010
Posts: 8

Hi,

I did this trek last month, it was absolutely amazing and I want to go again! We had a great group of 16 and most made it to base camp but only 4 to kala pattar due to it being about -35 that morning! Couple of things in response to the above comments, if you really hate iodine that much do not despair, you can actually buy bottled water all the way to the top camp at gorak shep although it does get expensive nearer the top cause someones gotta get it up there in the first place! Also, if you think you 'might' need it dont take it, we got to kathmandu and were told to cull everything in our packs so they weighed only 13kgs, difficult if your bag weighs 4kg before youve even put anything in like mine! You can leave stuff at the hotel there though.
Make sure you take plenty of pain killers/anti sickness meds if poss and drink loads of water, all our group felt rubbish at some point.
In terms of fitness obviously the fitter you are the better as you will be walking up to 9 hours a day but even the fittest people can suffer from altitude, just grin and bear it!!
Anyway, good luck and enjoy, am very jealous!!

Laura

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Posts: 6

Just read this thread of info - I'm off to EBC in April via Gokyo Lakes; wanted to take in Island Peak but could not get the time off work. Some good advice though; I've been to Mont Blanc, Jebel Toubkal ( Morocco), Cayambe and Cotopaxi in Ecuador and have be great at 5,000m+ but felt crappy at 4000m and have suffered from AMS - you just don't know when its going to hit you! Cam gives some really good advice but I've found that good aclimatisation and slow steady ascent with lots of water is best; and I've never used diamox. Hopefully I won't get the dreaded D&V and am currently looking at water filtration systems as I hate iodine - anyone suggest anything? My aquapure bottle has usually worked well to top up my playtpus. As for training had a fantastic weekend in snow on the Brecon Beacons last weekend and looking forward to lots of winter peaks before April.

cam
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Posts: 2

Hi,
I returned from the EBC and Kala Patthar trip on the 16th November, there were 16 of us on our trip and with regard to prior training and overall fitness levels we had a wide representation. This included age groups (early 20's to late 40's), prior medical history's (asthma, arthritis of the knees), prior training (some were seasoned trekkers with overseas experience & high altitude, some were marathon runners and regular gym goers and some who had done very little), fitness levels (excellent thru to average), office workers to manual workers.
The speed of ascent is very slow and although the reduced oxygen levels and angle of ascent made it hard work at times there was ample opportunity to recover, in fact fitness levels and prior training did not realistically enter the equation as the altitude effected members of the team differently and quite unexpectantly regardless of the above. It appeared on the face of it that your own physiology was either suited or not and luck played a part on whether you picked up any coughs/colds or gastric issue's that played a major part in whether you reached the base camp or Kalla Patthar.

My advice for what it is worth is to keep it simple, drink 5 to 6 ltr's of water a day, definately use a camelback as it will encourage you to drink, (bottled or boiled with iodine added), drink plenty of black tea, eat only the basic dishes (rice, noodles, chips, garlic soup, mars/snickers), take Diamox preventatively, keep your kit basic, dont worry about not washing/shaving, brush your teeth in bottled W, enjoy the scenery and above all dont fret about thinking your the only one who is knackered when going uphill as everyone else is too and at those heights its completely normal.

cam
Joined: 28/09/2010
Posts: 2

Matt,

Out of the 16 of us, 9 made it to base camp and 6 to Kalla Patthar. The reasons why not everyone made it to one or both were medical, either severe diarrhoea & vomiting due to picking up bacteria from water/food which led to fatigue, AMS (altitude mountain sickness) headaches, nausea, vomiting and fatigue or underlying medical conditions.
Although struck down with these it was not for the want of trying as had the D&V not spread there would of been a higher ratio of success.

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Posts: 8

hey guys you to will be ariving in KTM when im leaving to come back home. im doing the gokyo lakes - basecamp trek.

as for prep. im doing quite abit. no point getting there and being to unfit to enjoy it. Cotswold in leeds recently got back from EBC and only 3 out of the 16 made it. 2 had major Altitude sickness and the rest were just not fit enough.

personaly tho EBC is a stepping stone for me as im looking to summit one day.

if any one fancies a few british winter summiting. give us a email. this sat im heading up striding edge. cumbria

arl-visuals@hotmail.com

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hi matt.

The guys who went before trained with a guy called DAVE BUNTING MBE ex SAS mountaineer whos summited everest on the westen ridge (the first).

there part of a group called MY PEAK POTENCIAL

they trained at leeds met for about 3 months in the gym. didnt really do much hill work.
if u look google dave bunting you will probably find him. look at the training they did, i think they still have to info up there.
if not i recon the best way to train for days of walking is to just walk for days on end with weights in ya backpack.

iv just got back from a 8 hour walk this morning. walked from halifax to ilkley. then got the train back :-D. couldnt be arsed coming back lol.

any one from around yorkshire / cumbria ?

Joined: 28/09/2010
Posts: 8

hey matt. look for a book in waterstones called

lonely planet trekking in the nepal himalaya. they got kit lists. info on medication and all sorts. tells you what ya should take aswell as what people could have done with that they forgot haha. as for camel backs. iv bin advised not to use one ?. they are prone to freezing ?. altho to be honest i supose its what time of year you go.

i think some times you can research to much tho. kind of takes away the fun of not knowing what to expect. just be certain to talk diamox lol

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we got turned around due to road closures. we thought we could get away with it but just got told off instead. gunna try get there at some point this week.

i have a right climb planned for some point. dunno weather to go before or after EBC. rather than walk up the normal pasts of snowdon. me and mi uncle are gunna climb up the westen face and down the southen then back over. should be a gud laf but theres 600m of 50-70 degree of climbing with no were to really stop.

any of you lot in to mountaineering and climbing ? or jus treking ?

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I am just back from EBC and Kala Pattar. I would like to add that you do not have to take diamox. 4 of our group didn't take it and were fine. Listen to the guides to see if you should take it or speak to your GP before you go. It won't stop the symptoms of altitude sickness and you can get side effects from diamox (tingling, cramps, need to pee more etc). Some people go overboard with "you MUST take diamox" but you don't. I climbed Kilimanjaro without taking it. You also don't have to be super fit but should be reasonably fit. You should drink 5 litres of water + take iodine tablets (water will taste strange but is OK).

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Hi Jackie and Adam nice to hear from you guys

I need to get some walking done from what you have said Adam, do you know what sort of prior exercise the group that didn't make it had done before they went ?

Jackie have you ever done anything like this before ? I haven't and Adam has not put the fear of god into me [-o<

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Hi, I have never been at altitude before plus I have an office job, so guess I had better start some exercise, you should be much fitter than me if you work in sports Jackie.

I Live in Stockport so were right next to the Peak District so plently of places to go walking but I think I will have to work myself up to 8 hour walks with weights in my backpack.

I was looking to pick some gear up after Xmas or before possibly as presents, what have you guys heard is essential and what is just nice to have ?

Also are there any "must do" or "Must not Miss" things in Katmandu ?

Matt

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Cam, thanks for the advise it puts my mind at ease a little to know that it is somewhat luck of the draw with your natural physiology.

How many people from your group made the whole trip and what reasons did people turn back ?

Matt

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Adam how was Striding Edge ?

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Hi Matt. I'm also booked to go on the 26th with my friend Dean. I've not done any specific training as yet but have bought some walking boots-just need to break them in!!! Really looking forward to the trip. Jackie

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Hi Matt,

I've never been at a high altitude before so not sure how that will affect me. I work in sport and run, cycle and lift weights regularly. I haven't had much chance to do any walking as yet so am hoping to be able to get to do a bit soon and break in the new boots that have only been worn around the house so far!!! I think probably try to do some walking and include some other activities that will help to improve your endurance-cycling, running, cross training etc will all help.

Jackie

h
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Posts: 6

Hi Andrea, I am going to EBC in March and as part of my kit list I have been looking for an alernative to iodine as I hate the taste as well and I have come across this website:- www.travelwithcare.com they do a a small filter bottle system called Aquapure Traveller but they also do a cheaper option that of Iodine with a neutralsier to take away the tatse, called Iodine Tincture/Neutraliser.

Anyway have a look at the website.

Joined: 28/09/2010
Posts: 5

Hi,

Im doing the EBC as well departing on 29th March from London. Anyone doing the same pls e mail me! Im reasonably fit and trying to get better with weekend hikes- live in Manchester so going to Peak & Lake Districts - though they are not high enough. Im a bit nervous coz just started training about a month or so ago. If anyone wants to swap training notes or simply become friends before the actual trek- pls. get in touch!

Cheers

Bharati

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